SPRINGFIELD – Adding to the drama of #NationalWalkOutDay – a movement against guns and the National Rifle Association being promoted by gun control activists in the nation's high schools – the Illinois Senate is considering several gun control measures Wednesday at the State Capitol.
In addition to passing a ban on bump stocks that includes allowing municipalities to ban certain long guns, the Senate passed a measure that would ban 18 to 21 year olds from buying semi-automatic weapons.
When the Illinois Senate passed HB 1465, raising the age to 21 to buy assault weapons, cheers arose from the gun control activists in the gallery. Another man opposing the measure was escorted out for shouting, an observer reported.
Passing, 32-22-2, HB 1465 will now proceed to the Governor for his consideration. Tuesday, Governor Rauner vetoed a measure requiring state licensing of gun dealers.
The National Rifle Association has filed a lawsuit against a similar measure passed in Florida last week.
In 2008, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in District of Columbia v. Hellerthat the Second Amendment guarantees the “individual right to possess and carry” firearms and “elevates above all other interests the right of law-abiding, responsible citizens to use arms in defense of hearth and home.” The decision put gun ownership on the same constitutional plain as free speech, religious freedom and other core rights.
Here's the IL Senate roll call for HB 1465:
Gov Rauner VETO Ban of Semi-auto
Proposed HB 1465 violates the U.S. Constitution and is an illegitimate bill. The state legislature majority doesn’t seem to care about the supreme law of the America. They operate like third world banana republic dictators, only their opinion, their worldview matters not the law. Even though they swore an oath to uphold the constitutions. Article one, section eight, clauses fifteen and sixteen of the U.S. Constitution which pertain to the state militias prevents states from banning guns to those under 21 years olds…. An 18 year can be drafted into the Army to die for his country but the State of Illinois denies constitutionally protected freedoms to 18, 19, 20 year olds. The Constitution grants Congress the power over state militias. Per clause sixteen, the states are reserved only the authority to appoint officers and train their respective state militia in a discipline prescribed by congress. . It is article one, section eight, clauses fifteen and sixteen of the U.S. Constitution that prohibits the states from banning arms and disarming the militias (citizens). The tenth amendment states the powers not delegated to the federal gov’t by the U.S. Constitution or prohibited by the U.S. constitution to the states are reserved to the states respectively. It’s obvious the states are prohibited by the U.S, constitution from the authority to disarm the militias and or infringe the right to keep and bear arms since the constitution explicitly grants congress authority over state militias with the only exceptions being the appointment of officers and training.
“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.” – George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution 1788
No State may lawfully make any law which contradicts its State Constitution or which interferes with Congress’ power to “organize, arm, and discipline, the Militia.” As Justice Scalia ably articulated in Heller, the Second Amendment was designed to protect what Blackstone called “the natural right of resistance and self-preservation.” Without access to the weapons in common use in our time, the law-abiding citizen will grow increasingly and intolerably vulnerable to the lawless. Thus, to properly defend life and liberty, access to assault weapons and high-capacity magazines isn’t a luxury; it’s a necessity.
NOWHERE in the Constitution did we delegate to the government any right to impose ANY restrictions on guns, ammo, etc.
I simply don’t see how state govt thinks it has the lawful authority to override federal and US constitutional law. The 10th amendment in the US constitution spells it out, state laws are subservient to federal law. The general assembly cannot lawfully raise the age to 21 for the purchase of semi-automatic weapons. Per the Rule of law No State may lawfully make any law which contradicts its State Constitution or which interferes with Congress’ power to “organize, arm, and discipline, the Militia.” The states of Connecticut and Maryland both found that out, when their respective gun bans were deemed unconstitutional by the federal courts. You must veto HB 1465…. rule of law, not rule by corrupt state legislature. The states cannot ban semi-auto guns to 18, 19, 20 year olds…. They are part of the militia and must be afforded ALL constitutional protections.
Gov Rauner you must veto this cruel, unreasonable, arbitrary overreach and abuse of power called HB 1465
Boy am I ever sorry I walked doors for Jim Oberwis when he ran for US Senator. In my opinion he has no respect for the law
I may have erred when I stated both Connecticut and Maryland had gun bans overturned. I’m told it was just Maryland. I’ll look into this further when i get time.
Old enough to shot a rifle for the military though.
Fool, the US military and state militias are two different animals
Wasn’t a big deal when the kook from Belleville shot
Republicans at the House members playing baseball last year.
Read if you can. There was no requirement to be in the militia to own a gun.
Your comment is just DUMB!
He’s a Mittens Romney. Say or do whatever to win. Don’t vote for him ever again. Let him lose.
You’re right, they should be enlisted in the state militia or National Guard. How else will we be sure they are competent? They’ll probably need to train periodically with the militia, too.
Fool US military didn’t exist when the constitution was written….. only muskets… no ak-47s no ar-15s .. no machine guns…
have YOU even joined a state militia coward?
I love how you are a literalist for convenience only…pick and chose…
until your cowardice takes over…. you coward would never willingly fight for this country would you???? You are perfectly fine with HALF AN AMMENDMENT ERASED…..
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State <- thrown away like garbage by cowards. , the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
What does it say about a well regulated militia? Does it say that the people have to join? No. It just says it is necessary. It may as well say “The moon being made of green cheese, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” The action part is on the second half.
Besides, in most states the militia is defined as people being of a certain age. Not people being in an organized group. You call others fool and you can’t read, write, or comprehend anything.
So there were no AR-15s, no machine guns and that supposedly invalidates the second amendment? There was no TV, no radio, no internet. Does that invalidate the first amendment?
You are a moron. Take your medications. Learn to type.
ARTICLE XII
MILITIA
SECTION 1. MEMBERSHIP
The State militia consists of all able-bodied persons
residing in the State except those exempted by law.
http://www.ilga.gov/commission/lrb/conent.htm
Consider us all enlisted. Thanks for joining.
If he’s able bodied then he’s joined the militia. Wow, you are a stupid, stupid person.
It is nice to know you are a well-rounded piece of garbage and not just one who salivates at the thought of dismembering a baby.
You need to stop commenting. Not because you are a barely literate tool, but because the internet didn’t exist when the Constitution was written.
I, for one, would be happy with range time paid for by the taxpayers. What a generous offer of you. Please contact your state representative.
Very disappointed republicans voted for this. If we now deem 21 to be the age of maturity, let us have the conversation. I disagree with the notion, but if there are those who already feel you need to be 21 drink alcohol and now defend yourself with a gun, we should suggest that 21 is the appropriate age for adulthood. Vote when you’re 21, sign contracts when you’re 21, have an abortion without parental consent when you’re 21, and have relationships with movie executives and lawmakers when you’re 21. I would also suggest that parents will have full access to any and all university administrators and faculty for minors under 21, like they do while their children are in high school. Now, I get to have a conference with my college student’s professor if I so desire. If the radicals what 21 to be the age of adulthood, then 21 it is.
just as stupid as claiming to be constitutionalist while flushing half an amendment down the toilet …. read english… the right to bear arms is based on the need for a well regulated state militia. PERIOD.
From the Federalist Papers:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-americas-gun-fanatics-wont-tell-you-2016-06-14?mod=mw_share_facebook#false
It should be a properly constituted, ordered and drilled (“well-regulated”) military force, organized state by state, explained Hamilton. Each state militia should be a “select corps,” “well-trained” and able to perform all the “operations of an army.” The militia needed “uniformity in … organization and discipline,” wrote Hamilton, so that it could operate like a proper army “in camp and field,” and so that it could gain the “essential … degree of proficiency in military functions.” And although it was organized state by state, it needed to be under the explicit control of the national government. The “well-regulated militia” was under the command of the president. It was “the military arm” of the government.
It is you who is a coward and who lies. Don’t be stupid all your life.
SECTION 1. MEMBERSHIP
The State militia consists of all able-bodied persons residing in the State except those exempted by law. (Source: Illinois Constitution.)
I promise you I can out-shoot the vast majority of the military
“The U.S. military didn’t exist when the Constitution was written.”
WHAT??? The Constitution was written to replace the Articles of Confederation in the mid-1780s.
We fought our war for independence beginning in 1775. If we did not have a “U.S. military” at that time, then of WHAT was George Washington the commanding general? It was most certainly an enlisted, disciplined military organization.
Dear illiterate – do tell us where it requires joining a state militia in order to exercise the right to keep and bear arms.
The Illinois militia consists of all able bodied men.
You need your head and keyboard examined.
Really.
So one had to be a member of a militia to have a gun. that was the law?
Another dumb comment by YOU!
Are you advocating comprehensive Swiss-style militia training as an element of national security? Or well-regulated state militias as a counter-balance to federal power? Or are you just clutching at rhetorical straws, trying to justify restrictions on individual liberty? Do you really care about the militia?
Thanks Prairie Dog! Looks like oh really went AWOL
The framers of the constitution and the Bill of Rights STRONGLY OPPOSED a standing military, because they know that power would be abused. The way it is used now against American citizens. The overreach of the dept of Defense is criminal